It... happened a long time ago. Honestly, I... I'm not even sure I remember her any more, or just the idea of her.. [She sighs, heavily. How did they get on this? And why does it feel so... liberating to talk about it? Is that why she can't shut up?] It's only difficult in that-- I'm just not used to talking about her. We just-- don't. ...It's like an unspoken rule.